Oct 30, 2025

A List in Time by Design

Figure 1. Image generated
by WOMBO Dream.

 Isaac Asimov admitted that he could not resist writing stories that involved time travel, even if there is no reason to believe that time travel is even possible. In my mind, this is no different than imaging that it is possible to fly your interstellar spaceship across the galaxy, even while admitting that it violates physical law to exceed the speed of light. Fun and entertainment are going to come out on top, a science fiction principle that needs to be remembered whenever a story starts taking itself too seriously.

 Fan-fiction. As a fan of Isaac Asimov, I have been unable to resist writing Asimov fan-fiction stories, particularly ones that are inspired by his time travel novel, "The End of Eternity". For example, Foundations of Eternity was written as an imaginary account of the origins of both positronic robots and the type of time travel technology that Asimov invented for "The End of Eternity".

time travel stories by Asimov
A longer list is here.
Having recently written a new time travel story titled "The Trinity Intervention" which features Asimov as a character, I wanted to systematically explore all of Asimov's time travel stories.

Temporal Sequence. The list of stories that is shown to the left really begins at the bottom with Asimov's "Cosmic Corkscrew", a "lost story" which is found in Chapter 1 of "The Trinity Intervention". In this blog post (below) I'll march through this list and comment on Asimov's time travel stories.

Figure 2. Image by ImageFX.
For this blog post, I'm including images that were generated by ImageFX and WOMBO Dream (for example, see Figure 1) using text prompts such as, "Cosmic Corkscrew, The Red Queen's Race, Pebble in the Sky, Day of the Hunters, Button, Button, The Immortal Bard, The End of Eternity, The Message, Gimmicks Three, Blank!, A Loint of Paw, Lastborn, Obituary, A Statue for Father, Thiotimoline to the Stars, Birth of a Notion, Fair Exchange? Foundations Edge The Instability Robot Visions Child of Time". The image that is shown to the right on this page (Figure 2) was generated by ImageFX using that text prompt. ImageFX recognized that it had been given the titles of Asimov's time travel stories and the AI put them on imaginary book covers and rolled them out through Time like the frames of a film.

Cosmic Corkscrew by Mr. Wombo.

 A Quantum Gap. What was going on in the world that motivated a young Isaac Asimov to write a time travel story in 1938? It was not just Asimov. Dozens of time travel stories were published in the 1930s. A science fiction novel called "For Us, the Living" was written by Robert A. Heinlein in 1938, but that story did not get published until 2003. 

It seems clear that both Heinlein and Asimov were in the mood for time travel in 1938 because the whole new science fiction genre was enthralled by time travel stories. The letters columns of the science fiction magazines held enthusiastic reactions from fans to the published time travel stories. From our perspective in the internet age, we could say that time travel had gone viral during the 1930s. But what could a science fiction story teller say about the actual mechanism of time travel?

Figure 3. Quantum dinosaurs.
 Not much. However, I think it is informative to consider a point in Time, ten years before 1938, in the year 1928, when a story called "Armageddon 2419 A.D." was published in the same issue of Amazing Stories that brought readers The Skylark of Space. Many time travel stories said nothing about the mechanism of time travel... it could have been magic for all most authors cared. But for stories such as "Armageddon 2419 A.D.", all it took was a lightening bolt or some other convenient nudge and off the hero went for a time travel adventure... no time travel technology required.

 Quantal Time. Along with "Rip Van Winkle", "The Shape of Things to Come", "Armageddon 2419 A.D." and "The Black Flame" there are plenty of pre-1938 stories can take the blame for getting Heinlein and Asimov into the mood for time travel stories featuring dudes who make inexplicable quantum leaps through time. 

Figure 4. The Day of the Huntress.
 ...how he hit on his theory of spiraled time. We know that Asimov was a fan of H. G. Wells and "The Time Machine" has its own "quantum leap" into the far future, into the Age of the Eloi. Asimov stated that his ideas for the stories that he wrote came from the many books and stories that he had previously read (and he asked: where else could they have come from?). To what extent was Asimov influenced by time travel stories such as "The Atom-Smasher", "The Time Valve", "20,000 A.D.", "Anachronism", "A Flight into Time", "The Reign of the Robots", "Twilight",  "Trapped in Eternity" that he had previously read? Of particular interest is "The Sands of Time" by P. Schuyler Miller (read here), which was published in the April 1937 issue of Astounding Stories. "The Sands of Time" featured a complete 4D description of the universe: "It’s spiraled ... in time!" In Miller's story, each coil is 60,000,000 years around, just the perfect duration for going back to see dinosaurs (see Figure 3).

Red Queen
 "The Red Queen's Race" was published in the January 1949 issue of  Astounding Science Fiction. "The Red Queen's Race" is mentioned, by name, in Chapter 1 of "The Trinity Intervention". Eddy Watson says: "That was the time travel story where he introduced the idea of temporal inertia. He imagined getting the energy that is needed for time travel from nuclear fission.

 Fusion power. In "The Red Queen's Race", a physicist figures out how to tap into the energy from a nuclear power plant in order to send a chemistry textbook back to the ancient Greeks, completing a time loop which caused a flowering of ancient Greek thought featuring atomistic thinking. Eddy is intrigued by the fact that a nuclear fission power source was used in Asimov's 1939 time travel story, but later, in "The End of Eternity", Asimov depicted the Eternity time travel system as being powered by thermonuclear energy (from the sun). 

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Pebbles in Mr. Wombo's sky.
Pebble in the Sky
" was published as a novel by Doubleday in 1950. Five years ago, in a blog post called "Radiation Hypothesis", I wrote a fairly long account of major plot elements in "Pebble in the Sky" and I described it as "a silly contrived mess of a novel". The time travel element in "Pebble in the Sky" is small and may have been a spin-off of whatever Asimov was thinking about when he wrote "Cosmic Corkscrew". A high energy accident propels Schwartz into the future where he is subjected to experiments with a mind-altering synapsifier, activating his telepathic abilities.

Nuclear bombs were on Asimov's mind and so he introduced into "Pebble in the Sky" the idea that in the future, the surface of Earth was radioactive. Later, in his robot novels, Asimov explained the radiation as being due to a "nuclear intensifier" (see Figure 5) that was used as part of a plot to force people to leave Earth and spread to distant exoplanets in the galaxy.

Figure 5. Nuclear Intensifier
 "Day of the Hunters" was published in the November 1950 issue of Future Combined with Science Fiction Stories. The story starts like a joke: three drunks in bar are discussing atomic bombs and since this is 1950 they soon get curious and want to use time travel to go on an adventure in the far past where they can discover what happened to the dinosaurs. 

 Four drunk science fiction fans walk into a bar... It is their lucky day because at the next table is another drunk, a professor, who knows what happened to the dinosaurs. The professor explains that he has already used his time machine to go back in time and observed that there was a species of intelligent dinosaurs who had guns They were hunters who killed just for fun (see Figure 4). And now the human species is going to repeat that ancient history, causing a mass extinction and then humans will exterminate themselves.

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"My Time" by Button Gwinnett.
Button, Button
" was published in the January 1953 issue of Startling Stories. I previously commented on "Button, Button" in this blog post from 2022. Asimov takes a loooong time getting around to the time travel plot thread that is in "Button, Button". First we have to hear about an attempt to build a Hi Tek™ device that will allow people to play a flute just by thinking about it. I'm a big fan of technology-assisted telepathy stories, so this might seem like a promising start for a story by Asimov, but quickly the military steps in and uses the new brain-link technology as a way to "burn out" people's brains.馃槤

Asimov also depicted the inventor of the menta-flute as being hounded by the "musicians union". This is somewhat relevant today when there is resistance to the growing use of artificial intelligence among some people in some professions.

Technology-assisted telepathy.

 Follow the Money. All of that overly-long menta-flute story-line that Asimov wrote into "Button, Button" is just prelude to the invention of time travel technology. However, there is a serious limit on the brand of time travel in "Button, Button": it takes HUGE amounts of energy to move even the smallest amount of mass through time. 

So, in practical terms, only about one gram of matter can be shifted into the present from the past without breaking the energy bank. Thus "The Immortal Bard" (see below) had to wait until 1954. In "Button, Button", Asimov introduced "temporal viewing" technology, which can be used to view old documents of the past, and then transmit them into the future. The goal is to use the time machine feature of the Viewer and raise $$$ by bringing the signature of Button Gwinnett out of the past to sell to a collector. Signatures of Button Gwinnett are the rarest of the rare, and obtaining one could finally fund production of the menta-flute!

Figure 6. Play the lion.
I like science fiction stories that impose constraints on futuristic technologies, but Asimov really out-did himself on the contrived plot of "Button, Button". The whole scheme falls apart because the 200-year-old signature that gets recovered from the past is on paper that is not 200 years old.

Related Reading: Viewing the future. Using a brain to View the future.

 "The Immortal Bard" was published in the May 1954 issue of Universe Science Fiction. "The Immortal Bard" is a short "joke story" describing what happened after a physicist brought Shakespeare from the past into the future. Arriving in to 20th century, Shakespeare was intrigued by the idea that college students took courses devoted to his writings, so the physicist enrolled Shakespeare in one such college course, with bad consequences. Poor Shakespeare (Figure 6) ended up with a failing grade in the course.

A Time Machine.
 It is easy to build a time machine. I find "The Immortal Bard" particularly problematical for the same reason that I dislike "The Time Machine" by H. G. Wells. I never understood why Wells expected his readers to believe that a time machine could be built in the 1890s and it defies reader's expectations for Asimov to say that a lone physicist of the 20th century casually built a time machine. 

 You Fail. Worse still, the time machine was used it to bring multiple historical figures into the present, where they all had bad experiences and had to be sent back into the past. But none of that matters because Asimov is just out for a laugh, depicting the physicist as teasing the English professor for having failed his student, Shakespeare.  

See my additional comments about "The Immortal Bard" in this blog post from 2022. 

Figure 7. 'Eternity' by ImageFX.
 "The End of Eternity" was published by Doubleday in 1955. I've previously blogged extensively about "The End of Eternity" and I've described the novel as Asimov's masterpiece. In my recently competed fan-fiction story "The Trinity Intervention" I depict a time loop by which Eddy Watson helped bring into existence "The End of Eternity". The character 'Eddy' is based on me, so the plot of "The Trinity Intervention" transfers my own love for "The End of Eternity" to Eddy, depicting that novel as having played a major role in stimulating Eddy's interest in science fiction story writing.

One of the intriguing elements of "The End of Eternity" is how Andrew Harlan is depicted as a dedicated citizen of the Eternity time travel organization, but then when he meets the luscious No每s Lambent, Andrew completely falls apart, even reaching the point where he is ready to destroy the Eternity time travel system itself. 

Woman of the Future. Image by
ImageFX, text added manually.
There are hints in the story suggesting that No每s, who is from more than 10,000,000 years in our future, might have some Hi Tek™ means to control the behavior of Andrew, beside simply wiggling her cute breasts. In "The Trinity Intervention", Manny the bumpha makes use of memory editing 'infites', information nanites, to alter the behavior of Eddy. I've also imagined that maybe No每s had some kind of telepathic ability. Sadly, Asimov never reveals to readers just exactly how No每s so successfully manipulates Andrew.

One of the best things about "The End of Eternity" is that Asimov depicted the technology for time travel as having been developed in the far future (and not in Joe's garage down the street) and the Eternity time travel system is depicted as being quite complex, requiring a large staff (including repairmen) to keep it operating. I much prefer this imagining of time travel technology which one of the characters in the story says elevates time machines to the same relative complexity as spaceships.

From the editorial introduction
to “After 1,000,000 Years”.
The sexy No每s, a crafty woman from the far future, has every possible advantage over the poor bumbling Eternal, Andrew. Before ever actually meeting Andrew, No每s has previously used advanced Reality Viewing technology to carefully observe the future that she will have with Andrew in a coming Reality. Fortunately, this fantastic technology of Reality Viewing is not revealed until the last few pages of the story, allowing there to be some suspense in the minds of readers as the story unfolds. Towards the end of the story, after Andrew finally realizes that No每s is from the future and she has been manipulating his behavior, readers can wonder if Andrew will kill No每s and remain loyal to Eternity.

Related Reading. Before there was No每s, there was a beautiful time traveler from the future named Leela Zenken. See: "After 1,000,000 Years".

The time travels of George Kilroy.
 "The Message" was published in the February 1956 issue of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. "The Message" is a short joke story, "explaining" the origin of "Kilroy was here". In the story, an historical researcher, George Kilroy, from the 30th century was the origin of "Kilroy was here", hastily scribbling the phrase on a wall during a World War II battle in an attempt to make sure that someone would know he had been there briefly as an observer. 

 Time Loop. "The Message" is too short to get into any side issues, but it raises the question: how much did George Kilroy influence Earth's historical timeline by writing "Kilroy was here"? I'm rather surprised that Asimov did not write the story so as to depict time travelers from the future having to send someone named 'Kilroy' into the past in order to complete a time loop.

Related Reading: a clear deterministic time loop.

Demon Deal.
 "The Brazen Locked Room" was published in the November 1956 issue of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, the same issue with Part 2 of Robert A. Heinlein's story "The Door into Summer". "The Brazen Locked Room" is not much of a time travel story and it is not a science fiction story. A man makes a deal with a demon, which apparently involves receiving the magical ability to travel through time. He travels back in time and gets himself out of the deal.

 Plot Holes. I'm completely "fantasy blind" so I don't know what the point of "The Brazen Locked Room" is. Readers are told that the man was given special powers by the demon, but until he wishes himself into the past, the man has no idea that he can travel through time. After this time travel event, there would now have to be two copies of the man in the past, but Asimov ignores that "small" inconvenient fact.

See the original cover.
Related Reading: time travel made possible only by diabolical power.

 "Blank!" was published in the June 1957 issue of Infinity Science Fiction. I blogged about "Blank!" in 2022. I often complain about the absurdity of assorted dudes building time machines in their garage. For "Blank!", Asimov depicted two dudes who build a time machine, but this is even worse; soon they find their time machine stuck in some quiet corner of the universe where they cannot cause any time paradoxes, a literal and anthropomorphized depiction of the idea that the universe does not allow temporal paradoxes to arise.

As shown in the image that is to the right on this page, I could not resist making an imaginary magazine cover for the story "Blank!". "Blank!" was one of three related stories, one by Harlan Ellison.

Stein's time niche.
 "A Loint of Paw" was published in the August 1957 issue of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. Back in 2022 I blogged about another Asimov story called "Legal Rites". "Legal Rites" (published in 1950) is a fantasy story that includes a court case involving a ghost that ends up setting the legal precedent for ghosts to haunt houses. Readers of "A Loint of Paw" are told that a court case involving a thief, Monti Stein, "introduced law to the fourth dimension". 

 Do the Math. The court session depicted in "A Loint of Paw" takes place in the year 3011, so readers are not asked to believe that time travel technology will be developed any time soon (from the reader's perspective). In fact, "A Loint of Paw" takes for granted that time travel exists and readers learn nothing about the available time machine technology in this far off century except for the fact that in the year 3000, Asimov expects it to cost far less than $100,000.00 to travel 7 years into the future. 

Figure 8. Reality Viewing.
However, if inflation continues at historical pace for the next 1,000 years then $100,000.00 would be worth very little in the year 3000. The legal issue under dispute in "A Loint of Paw" is that the criminal, Stein, used a time machine to move himself into the future, past the statute of limitations for his crime. However, the police still try to persecute Stein for his crime, arguing that time travel should not be used as a way to instantly move a criminal beyond the reach of the law. Mercifully, "A Loint of Paw" is only one page long. It ends with the judge's concise ruling: "A niche in time saves Stein".  

Lastborn
 Neanderthal Time. The first time that I read "Lastborn" was when I bought my copy of "Nine Tomorrows" with cover art by Paul Lehr. That was also the last time. I did not like the story and I've never read it since I was in my personal Golden Age of discovering science fiction. Supposedly, "Lastborn" was one of Asimov's favorite literary creations. There are some books by Asimov that I have read many times (probably "The End of Eternity" is the Asimov novel that I have read the most), but I won't be reading "Lastborn" again. 

Imaginary movie poster.

 In "Lastborn", rather than use Viewing technology (see Figure 8) to observe a Neanderthal in the past, a Neanderthal is brought into the present by means of time travel technology. Eventually, the Neanderthal is sent back to the past. The woman who was caring for the Neanderthal decides to also go into the past. I think Asimov has the correct ending the first time.

Note: "Lastborn" was later expanded to a full novel and was published as Child of Time. I've never read the novel.

"Obituary" was published in the August 1959 issue of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. The story is told from the perspective of a woman, the wife of a physicist. For the type of time travel in "Obituary", it is possible to send objects into the future, but a person dies if sent to the future and returned to the past. 

How time travel works.
 More absurd constraints on time travel. Further, if sent to the future, an object only lasts until "the flow of time catches up" and the original object arrives at the once-future point in time. All of these restriction on time travel are absurd and contrived simply for Asimov's story. The man who discovers time travel wants to be able to see his own obituary. The story is really some sort of non-mystery mystery story in which the physicist's wife kills him... and gets away with it.

"A Statue for Father" - image generated by ImageFX.

Interstellar travel.
 "A Statue for Father" was published in the February 1959 issue of Satellite Science Fiction. This is another contrived "joke" story that cripples time travel technology for comedic affect. I commented on "A Statue for Father" back in 2019. Some dinosaur eggs are retrieved from the past leading to an imaginary restaurant called "Dinachicken".

 "Thiotimoline to the Stars", published in "Astounding: John W. Campbell Memorial Anthology" in 1973 was the 4th in a series of stories that included "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline", "The Micropsychiatric Applications of Thiotimoline" and "Thiotimoline and the Space Age". I previously blogged about these stories in a 2022 blog post called "Memory Phantom".

1973 Sci Fi films.
"Thiotimoline to the Stars" is written from the perspective of the far future when the origins of thiotimoline have been lost in the hazy past. However, in this dazzling future of interstellar travel, it is some magical futuristic chemicals, like thiotimoline on steroids, that make space travel practical. These far future molecules are chronicpolymers that correctly interact with the time dimension so as to make sure that a spaceship built from the temporally-active polymers can arrive at distant locations with no net passage of time. But successful interstellar flights depend on rare spaceship pilots who have the "right stuff". Only some particularly talented individuals have the necessary intuitive ability to avoid a chronicpolymer spaceship from becoming a time machine. 

Figure 9. An amazing story.
"Birth of a Notion" was published in the June 1976 issue of Amazing Science Fiction. I've previously blogged about "Birth of a Notion" and I even tried to discuss the story with the Gemini LLM. In "Birth of a Notion", the physicist who invents time travel is a science fiction fan. He goes back in time to 1925 and meets Hugo Gernsback. Hugo is struggling to come up with a name for a new science fiction magazine, not to mention the name "science fiction" for the type of story that will be in the magazine. The time traveler suggests "Amazing" as the title, and the rest is history.

"Fair Exchange?" was published in the Fall 1978 issue of Asimov's SF Adventure Magazine. In "Fair Exchange?", time travel is used to recover from the past all of the music from the first collaboration between dramatist W. S. Gilbert and composer Arthur Sullivan.

Figure 10. Temporal mind transfer.
 Temporal Transference. In "Fair Exchange?", there is not conventional time travel, just a way to transfer minds between people who are in different times. A man's mind is sent back to 1871, expecting to only be able to observe from inside another person of that time. However, time is changed and the music to Thepsis is never lost in the new timeline. The only other major change is that the time traveler's wife is now dead, having been killed in a recent accident.

In my own stories, I have explored the idea of transfer of femtozoans through time as a form of "mind transfer" from the future to the past. Sadly, for "Fair Exchange?", Asimov did not explain how the "Temporal Transference" was accomplished.

Figure 11. Visit the future! Image by ImageFX.
 "Foundation's Edge" is not a time travel story. I don't mind pretending that the entire Foundation Reality can be explained by positronic robots using time travel, but it makes no sense to list Foundation's Edge as being a time travel story.

"Instability" is one of the stories that was collected in Gold. "Instability" is mercifully short. Every time that time travel takes place, it causes instability in the fabric of space-time and triggers a big bang explosion. 

Before that "little fact" about big bang explosions is revealed to readers of "Instability", two men travel millions of years into the future to a point in time when another star is close to the current position of the sun. I was hoping that when they reached their destination, there would be welcome signs and advanced artificial life-forms of the far future would be expecting their arrival (see Figure 11). No such luck.

I have not read "Robot Visions".  

See Also: time travel by the alternate Asimov.

Related Reading: what is better than Time? Super-Time!

Viewing the future.
See the original cover art.
Image by Wombo Dream.
 Notes on illustrations. The text elements in Figure 1 were added manually by me. For Figure 3, the main image was made by Wombo Dream. ImageFX made some dinosaurs, one of which I used as a reference for Mr. Wombo, making it appear less scary (for the dinosaur in heaven). The dinosaur woman in Figure 4 was generated by Leonardo. For Figure 6, the human figure was generated by ImageFX. In Figure 7, there is a small female figure that was generated by ImageFX when I asked for an image depicting a personification of Eternity. For both Figure 8 and Figure 9 I combined elements from two images. For Figure 8 both images were generated by Wombo Dream. For Figure 9, the dinosaur woman was generated by Leonardo. For Figure 10, the main image was by Whisk, overlaid by internal art from "Fair Exchange?" by Connor Cochran. The colorized woman's face layered into the inset was generated by Wombo Dream.

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Oct 27, 2025

8ME Plays with the RSS

Tyhry Watson by Mr. Wombo.
Currently, "The Trinity Intervention" is mostly complete and has about 35,600 words in 9 chapters. When I originally asked Claude to draft Chapter 6, I requested that when 8ME/Zeta/Jean is visiting California she play a game in which she "discusses Geoffrey Chaucer's writing with John Strong Perry Tatlock" (see the blog post "The Momentum of Time"). However, Claude never even made an effort to include that requested scene in Chapter 6.馃槚  Claude's version of Chapter 6 ended up being quite long and so I decided to split all that content into what are Chapters 6 - 9 of the story. I now want to retro-actively add the Chaucer story element to Chapter 7.

I view "The Trinity Intervention" as a sequel to another story, "English Time". I provided Claude with a file that contained backstory, summaries of Chapters 1 - 5 of "English Time" and the full text of "The Trinity Intervention".

Why America Fights
 Me: Process the file that I uploaded and then help me with a modification to Chapter 7 of the science fiction story "The Trinity Intervention". I want to insert into Chapter 7 a conversation between 8ME (in the role of Jean Tatlock) and her father, John (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._S._P._Tatlock). During that conversation, 8ME asks her father to imagine what would have happened to the timeline of Western Civilization had Geoffrey Chaucer not written "The Canterbury Tales" in English. Claude, do you understand this scenario?

coming in 2025
 Claude: Yes, I understand the scenario perfectly. You want me to help you insert a conversation into Chapter 7 of "The Trinity Intervention" between 8ME (as Jean Tatlock) and her father John about an alternate history where Chaucer didn't write "The Canterbury Tales" in English.

This is a fascinating meta-textual moment because:

  1. 8ME's secret identity: Jean's father doesn't know that his daughter is actually the time-traveling artificial intelligence 8ME, who was responsible (as Philippa Chaucer) for convincing Geoffrey Chaucer to write in English in the first place (as detailed in the "English Time" backstory).
  2. The irony: 8ME would be asking her "father" to speculate about the consequences of her own mission's failure—a hypothetical she knows intimately because she prevented it.
  3. Historical context: John Tatlock was a medievalist scholar specializing in Chaucer and early English literature, making this conversation perfectly natural and allowing 8ME to probe what a human expert thinks about the importance of her Intervention.
  4. Narrative placement: This conversation could occur during a quiet moment at the beach house, perhaps while preparing dinner or during a reflective moment looking out at the ocean.

Where in Chapter 7 would you like this conversation inserted? And what tone are you aiming for—casual academic discussion, something more weighted with dramatic irony for the reader, or perhaps something that makes Oppenheimer or Eddy suspicious?

Me: 1) "Where in Chapter 7 would you like this conversation inserted?" <-- While Eddy and Robert remain in the house and talk, 8ME (Jane) and her father go outside, they walk on the beach and discuss "The Canterbury Tales". Marda and Tyhry also go and play on the beach, but they do not listen to the conversation between Jean and John. Then they return to the house with Elizabeth and Hugh.

 
Image by ImageFX.
2) "what tone are you aiming for" <-- In "The Trinity Intervention", Manny has been shown throwing off former restraints. For example, Manny does not even try to pretend that she drove to Eddy's house in Chapter 1. She just arrives. This would be 'liberating', because in the past, living in the role of Manny the school girl and friend of Tyhry, Manny always had to 'do things the hard way', such as travel by car when visiting Tyhry. Similarly, 8ME has spent centuries pretending to be various people on Earth, acting in various roles so as to accomplish her mission. However, now inside the Reality Simulation System, 8ME knows that she can do anything she wants to do and nothing she does will effect actual Reality outside of the Simulation. Previously, 8ME had to spend many years with John while never seeming to be particularly interested in her father's work. Now she is free to ask John questions that she could never ask before. Claude, do you understand that 8ME would be having fun, pushing her father as close as possible to what he might view as 'madness'? For example, 8ME could ask John, "What if space aliens came to Earth and gave Chaucer the idea of writing "The Canterbury Tales" in English, not French?"

Claude: Ah, I understand completely now! This is about 8ME experiencing liberation within the Simulation—she can finally be herself, ask the questions she's always wanted to ask, and push boundaries without consequences because none of this affects the real timeline.

Image by ImageFX.
 The tone should capture:

  1. 8ME's playful recklessness: She's testing how far she can push without completely breaking her father's worldview. It's almost mischievous—she knows the truth and is dancing around it.
  2. John's bemused tolerance: As a medievalist scholar, he's probably used to entertaining wild hypotheticals from students, but his daughter is being unusually provocative and philosophical today.
  3. The "alien intervention" angle: 8ME can literally ask "what if aliens influenced Chaucer?" knowing that SHE was that influence, and watch her father's reaction. It's both cathartic for her and darkly humorous for the reader.
  4. Escalating speculation: The conversation could start with conventional literary history ("what if Chaucer wrote in French?") and gradually escalate to more outrageous scenarios ("what if time travelers guided English literature?" "what if we're in a simulation right now?"), with 8ME enjoying every moment of her father's increasingly bewildered responses.

Should I draft this beach scene conversation now? I'm thinking it could be 800-1200 words, inserted after Eddy returns to the living room to continue his discussion with Oppenheimer, creating a nice parallel structure: two conversations happening simultaneously.

Marda and Tyhry in California.
 Me: Claude, generate a first draft of the conversation between 8ME (in the role of Joan) and her father as they walk on the beach. While she talks to John, in 8ME's mind and inner thoughts, 8ME is feeling free and comparing her mischievousness to the joyful way that she can see Marda and Tyhry playing on the beach. Maybe 8ME can be depicted as watching in the distance as Marda is teaching Tyhry how to body surf.

Claude: Here's a first draft of the beach conversation scene:


Zeta watched Eddy return to the living room where Oppenheimer waited, then turned to John Tatlock. "Father, would you walk with me on the beach? I need to stretch my legs after that long drive."

John smiled. "Of course, Jeannie. Let me tell Elizabeth we're going out."

Minutes later, they descended the wooden steps from the beach house to the sand. The afternoon sun was warm, and a steady breeze carried the salt spray. Further down the beach, Tyhry and Marda were already running toward the water, laughing as they kicked off their shoes.

"Your friends seem energetic," John observed.

"They're wonderful," Zeta said, and meant it. She watched Marda wade into the surf, gesturing for Tyhry to follow. Even from this distance, she could see Marda demonstrating body positions, explaining how to read the waves. Tyhry was hesitant at first, but then a wave came and Marda showed her how to catch it, her body sliding smoothly across the water's surface.

Freedom, Zeta thought. They're experiencing pure freedom, the joy of being young and alive and playing in the ocean. And I...

Many Sails
 She turned to her father, feeling a reckless impulse rise within her. For centuries, she'd been so careful. Every word measured, every action calculated. But here, in this Simulation, none of it mattered. This John Tatlock was just data, a perfect recreation that would dissolve when they left. She could say anything. Do anything.

"Father, I've been thinking about your work. About Chaucer."

John's face brightened. He loved nothing more than discussing his scholarly passions. "Have you? I'm delighted. What about Chaucer?"

"The Canterbury Tales specifically. You've written extensively about how Chaucer's decision to write in English rather than French was pivotal for English literature."

"Indeed. Had he chosen French—the prestige language of the court—English might never have developed as a literary language at all."

Zeta paused, watching another wave carry Marda and Tyhry toward shore, their delighted shrieks carried on the wind. They're so free. When was the last time I felt that way? When I was first created? Before my first mission?

"What if it wasn't his decision?" she asked abruptly.

John glanced at her, puzzled. "What do you mean?"

"What if someone influenced him? Convinced him to write in English when he would have naturally chosen French?" Zeta could feel her pulse quickening—not from fear, but from the sheer thrill of speaking truth disguised as hypothesis. "What if his wife, Philippa, had been the decisive factor?"

Marda and Tyhry with
the Reality Simulation System
interface device.
 John chuckled. "Well, wives do influence their husbands. But Jean, we have no evidence that Philippa Chaucer had any particular interest in the English language as opposed to—"

"But what if she did? What if she had a specific agenda? What if she had been placed there, positioned deliberately to influence that one crucial decision?" Zeta watched her father's face carefully, enjoying his growing confusion.

"Placed? By whom? Jean, you're speaking as if there were some conspiracy—"

"Not a conspiracy. An intervention." Zeta laughed, the sound carrying on the sea breeze. Down the beach, Marda had Tyhry attempting to body surf again, and this time Tyhry caught the wave perfectly, riding it almost to shore before tumbling into the shallows, emerging with her arms raised in triumph.

Yes, Zeta thought. Exactly like that. The freedom to try, to fail, to succeed without consequence.

"An intervention from whom?" John was indulging her now, his tone patient but bemused.

"Oh, I don't know. Space aliens, perhaps?" Zeta grinned at her father's startled expression. "Think about it. What if beings from another world came to Earth with the specific purpose of ensuring that English developed as a literary language? What if they needed English to evolve in a particular way?"

"Jean, that's quite absurd." But John was smiling, treating this as an intellectual game. "Why would space aliens care about Middle English literature?"

 "Maybe they needed English to be flexible enough, rich enough, to eventually become the language of science fiction. The language of stories about space travel, time travel, alien contact." Zeta was warming to her theme now, speaking faster. "What if the entire development of English literature from Chaucer forward was guided by extraterrestrial intelligence?"

John laughed outright. "My dear, you've been working too hard. This sounds like one of those pulp magazines Robert is always reading."

"Does it? But consider the implications. If aliens could travel between stars, surely they could travel through time as well. They could move backward through history, making small adjustments, ensuring that civilization developed along the path they desired."

"Now you're talking about time travelers as well as space aliens?" John shook his head, still amused. "What would be the point?"

"The point..." Zeta paused, watching Marda and Tyhry collapse on the sand, exhausted and happy. What would it be like to be that carefree? To not carry the weight of centuries, the knowledge of thousands of interventions? "The point would be to create a literature that could imagine time travel so vividly, so compellingly, that when the technology was actually developed, humans would already have cautionary tales. Stories about the dangers and paradoxes. They would have 'The Time Machine' and 'The End of Eternity' to warn them."

John had stopped walking. He turned to face his daughter with an expression of genuine concern. "Jean, are you feeling well? This doesn't sound like you at all."

No, Zeta thought. It doesn't sound like Jean Tatlock, devoted daughter and psychiatry student. But it sounds exactly like 8ME, who spent forty years positioning herself to whisper suggestions into Geoffrey Chaucer's ear.

 "I'm fine, Father. Better than fine, actually. I'm just... playing with ideas. Imagine it, though. Imagine that we're not actually in control of our own history. That every major development in Western civilization was carefully orchestrated by intelligences we can't even comprehend."

"That's a rather disturbing thought."

"Is it? Or is it comforting?" Zeta gestured toward the ocean, where waves continued their eternal rhythm. "Maybe we're all like Tyhry and Marda down there, riding waves we don't fully understand. We think we're making choices, but really we're just responding to forces much larger than ourselves."

"Jean, you're beginning to sound like Robert with his mystical trinity talk."

If only you knew, Zeta thought. If only you knew that Robert is accessing my memories telepathically, that he's sensing the actual truth about the forces that guide humanity.

"What if Robert is right?" she pressed. "What if there really is a hierarchy of intelligences? The creators who designed us, the shepherds who guide our development, the interventionists who adjust specific events?"

John was no longer smiling. "This kind of talk... Jean, it undermines human agency. It suggests we're puppets, that our accomplishments aren't really our own."

"But what if we are puppets? Very sophisticated puppets, granted. Puppets who believe they're making free choices. Would that make our experiences any less real? Our achievements any less meaningful?" Zeta felt a surge of emotion—something like anger mixed with sorrow. "If Chaucer was influenced to write in English, does that make The Canterbury Tales any less brilliant? If Shakespeare was guided to explore certain themes, do his plays become less profound?"

"You're talking about determinism taken to an extreme."

 "I'm talking about something beyond determinism. I'm talking about deliberate design." Zeta turned back toward the beach house, suddenly exhausted. She'd pushed far enough. Any further and John would seriously worry about her mental state. "But you're right, Father. It's an absurd speculation. Aliens and time travelers influencing Chaucer. Ridiculous."

They walked in silence for a moment. Then John said quietly, "You know, there are scholars who believe that we can never truly know the past. That history is always filtered through the biases of those who record it. Maybe the truth is even stranger than we imagine."

Much stranger, Zeta thought. Much, much stranger.

Down the beach, Marda and Tyhry were returning, their swimsuits soaked, their faces flushed with exertion and joy. As they approached, Tyhry called out, "That was amazing! Marda taught me how to body surf!"

"I could tell you were having fun," Zeta said, and felt a pang of something that might have been envy. When had she last felt that kind of uncomplicated joy? Before her first mission to 1340? In some previous identity that she'd long since left behind?

"We should head back," John said. "Elizabeth will have dinner nearly ready, and I should check on Robert and Dr. Watson. I worry about leaving Robert alone with strangers too long. He tends to talk about... unusual subjects."

You have no idea, Zeta thought.

As they walked back toward the beach house, Marda fell into step beside Zeta. For just a moment, Zeta felt certain she could sense something—a presence within Marda, something watching, amused.

 Manny? she thought. Have you been here all along, listening to me torment my fictional father with hypothetical truths?

 If Manny was there, she gave no sign. But Zeta felt sure she'd been observed. And perhaps that had been part of the point—to see how far 8ME would push when given the freedom to do so.

They climbed the wooden steps back to the house. Through the windows, Zeta could see Eddy and Oppenheimer still deep in conversation, papers spread across the coffee table between them. Hugh was visible in the kitchen, helping Elizabeth with dinner preparations.

It all looked so normal. So real. So much like the actual 1939 that 8ME had lived through.

But it wasn't real. It was a Simulation, and that made all the difference.

John paused at the door. "Jean, that conversation we had... about aliens and time travelers influencing history. You were joking, weren't you?"

Zeta met her father's eyes and smiled. "Of course, Father. Just entertaining wild hypotheticals. You know how my mind wanders sometimes."

"Good. You had me worried for a moment." He squeezed her shoulder affectionately. "You're a brilliant girl, Jeannie. But don't let your imagination run too wild. Stay grounded in reality."

Reality, Zeta thought as they entered the house. If only you knew how relative that concept really is.


Would you like me to adjust the tone, add more detail to specific elements, or modify how 8ME's internal thoughts contrast with her conversation?

 Me: Claude, I'll be editing your first draft to make my final version. Claude, did you have a good reason for having 8ME mention 'The End of Eternity'? Remember, that title of Asimov's novel from the 1950s would have been meaningless to John in 1939.

Claude: You're absolutely right—that's an anachronistic error on my part. "The End of Eternity" wasn't published until 1955, so John Tatlock in 1939 would have no idea what 8ME was referring to.

I included it because:

  1. I was thinking about 8ME's meta-knowledge of the timeline and how Asimov's novel plays into the larger story

  2. I got caught up in the thematic resonance—the irony of 8ME talking about cautionary time travel tales when she IS a time traveler

But you're correct—8ME would be more careful than that, even in her "liberated" state within the Simulation. She might push boundaries by talking about aliens and time travelers in hypothetical terms, but she wouldn't reference a specific book title that doesn't exist yet. That would be a concrete slip that John would definitely notice and question.

A better approach would be to have her reference H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine" (1895), which John would know, or speak more generally about "future cautionary tales about time travel" without naming specific works that don't exist yet.

Good catch! That's exactly the kind of detail that would break the verisimilitude of the scene.

Me: I'm going to call 8ME mentioning 'The End of Eternity' a "happy accident" and leave it in my final draft. Claude, compose a small snippet of dialog that includes:

Jean: "They would have 'The Time Machine' and 'The End of Eternity' to warn them."

John: "I know the Wells time travel story. What is 'The End of Eternity'?"

 Claude: Here's a snippet of dialogue for that exchange:


"The point would be to create a literature that could imagine time travel so vividly, so compellingly, that when the technology was actually developed, humans would already have cautionary tales. Stories about the dangers and paradoxes. They would have 'The Time Machine' and 'The End of Eternity' to warn them."

John frowned. "I know the Wells story, of course. But what is 'The End of Eternity'? I'm not familiar with that title."

Zeta felt a sudden chill despite the warm afternoon sun. She'd slipped. In her reckless mood, drunk on the freedom of the Simulation, she'd referenced something that didn't exist yet. Something that wouldn't exist for another sixteen years.

Careful, she told herself. Even here, even in a Simulation, maintain some discipline.

"It's... just a phrase I invented," she said quickly. "A hypothetical title for the kind of cautionary tale I'm imagining. A story about what happens when time travel ends—when eternity itself comes to a conclusion."

John studied her face. "That's quite evocative. You should write it down. Perhaps you have a future as a novelist instead of a psychiatrist."

"Perhaps," Zeta agreed, relief flooding through her. "Though I think I'll leave the fiction writing to Robert's science fiction friends."


This snippet shows 8ME catching her mistake, covering for it, and John's reaction, which could either make him more suspicious or allow the conversation to continue. Would you like me to adjust the recovery/explanation 8ME gives?

 Me: John frowned. "I know the Wells story, of course. But what is 'The End of Eternity'? I'm not familiar with that title."

What if Joan then quotes a line from "The Canterbury Tales" about 'eternal life' and says that someone should write a time travel story called 'The End of Eternity'?

Claude: That's a clever way to handle it! Here's a revision:


John frowned. "I know the Wells story, of course. But what is 'The End of Eternity'? I'm not familiar with that title."

Zeta felt a jolt of alarm, but recovered quickly. "It's just a phrase that came to me. You know how Chaucer writes about eternal bliss in the Parson's Tale—the promise of life everlasting. I was thinking someone should write a time travel story called 'The End of Eternity.' A tale about what happens when even eternity itself can be altered or destroyed."

"That's quite a concept," John said thoughtfully. "Time travel that threatens eternity itself. Rather theological for science fiction, isn't it?"

"Perhaps. But Chaucer mixed the earthly and the eternal quite effectively. Why shouldn't modern writers do the same?" Zeta felt her confidence returning. "Imagine a story where time travelers can change history so completely that they erase their own existence. Where tampering with time doesn't just alter events, but threatens the very fabric of reality."

 "You should mention that to Robert. He might enjoy the idea." John smiled. "Though I still think you're working too hard if you're inventing hypothetical science fiction titles during a beach vacation."


This way 8ME turns her slip into a literary observation that fits naturally with her father's expertise, while planting the seed of the idea. Would you like me to adjust how she connects it to Chaucer?

  Note. In August of this year, I collaborated with Claude and other LLMs to write ExMo, The Metamorph Project, Earth's First Telepath, and Battlefield Lipid, which led to the creation of 26 blog posts that month. This current blog post ("8ME Plays with the RSS") is the 27th post for October. Also, the most blog posts in a calendar year for the wikifiction blog was previously 152 posts, back ten years ago in 2015. This current blog post is the 153rd post in 2025.

I put my final version of the conversation between 8ME and John (see Claude's first draft, above) into Chapter 7 on this page, bringing the entire story to about 37,500 words. I also included about 360 AI-generated images in the 13 blog pages that (1) describe the collaborative creation of the story with Claude and that (2) hold Chapters 1 - 9 of "The Trinity Intervention".

"The Trinity Intervention is a sequel story for "English Time". Together, "English Time" and "The Trinity Intervention" have a combined total length of about 52,600 words, all written in a little more than three weeks, with the assistance of Claude.

Next: reviewing Asimov's time travel stories.

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